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Here's Marjorie Taylor Greene denying that she ever said Speaker Pelosi was a "traitor to our country" and then being presented with evidence that she, in fact, said that. đ˛âđŽâđ¸âđ¨â
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u/Financial_Month6835 2d ago
I want to see the rest of this testimony
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u/kevocaraptor 2d ago
Tldr; "I don't remember/don't recall, but if I did say it, you're taking it out of context".
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u/Imfrom_m-83 2d ago
The narcissists creed: âI didnât say it, and if I did, it was taken out context, and if it wasnât then itâs just a joke, and if itâs not a joke other people have said much worse.â
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u/smurb15 2d ago
So should we take notes how to be successful in this country because it sure is working for the lot of them
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u/Darry__Lavid 2d ago
I don't think it's exactly a secret. You just have to be an absolute piece of human garbage with no morals and whose life decisions are based entirely on greed and power.
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u/MontySucker 2d ago
Thats the point are society selects for these people. Only narcissistic people want to be in positions of power. Everyone else realizes theyâd be shit at it which automatically makes them better in reality though.
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u/enterthesun 2d ago
Even though society sort of selects this way, it makes for a risky path to long term success, when you could just be a decent person and remove so much risk.
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u/whichalps 2d ago
LPT: Watch out for this anywhere in life, it's a smoking gun.
Ruuuuun if you encounter one.
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u/Chairish 2d ago
The narcissists creed: âI didnât say it, and if I did, it was taken out context, and if it wasnât then itâs just a joke, and if itâs not a joke other people have said much worse.â<
plus hUntER BidENâs LApTop!! (Or some other whataboutism)
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u/hopeful_tatertot 2d ago
I donât think weâre finished talking about Hillaryâs emails
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u/sentrybot619 2d ago
Hillary's emails are on Hunter's laptop which is in Mike Pence's basement.
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u/LCMorganArt 2d ago
It's the narcissist's prayer, a republican motto.
"That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it."
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u/nickels-n-dimes 2d ago
"i have a whole team of people that post for me. Could have been anyone!" all that bullshit.
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u/PAdogooder 2d ago
I watched the whole thing. It was unbearable. Part of the pain was the experience of watching someone pull a Karen in a courtroom. âIâm not answering that, itâs speculativeâ is not for a witness to say, and by this point, everyone has given up trying to correct her and let the attorney control her, which he did pretty well.
Another part was watching her lie so badly. Thereâs a pain to watching someone be evil, and a second pain watching someone do it badly. Sheâs horrendously stupid. She is stupid because she has never had to be smart. She has never had to do anything but be blonde and entitled.
There is a pain in sitting through her smugness. Throughout the testimony it was clear she thought she was winning. Because, in a horrible way, she probably was winning the war as she lost this battle.
And the last pain was watching this manifestation of white supremacy, knowing that no one who didnât want to see would. It is so clear to me that this is a woman raised in a Georgia where you just donât question white women like this, and because itâs not a racial topic, no one will see it that way except those who already have the eye to.
It was unbearable and I have already forgotten what the trial was about because of the constant storm of shit these fascists have unleashed on us.
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u/BrownEggs93 2d ago
It was unbearable.
It still is. She represents more than just the dumbfucks of her district.
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u/Massive_Horse_5720 2d ago
In Europe, many believe that she and her likes represents the USA.
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u/Munnin41 2d ago
When almost half the vote goes to a misogynistic, lying, hateful pig it's really not that much of a stretch tbh
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u/speakingtoidiots 2d ago
Thank you for you comment this was truely terrifying. The part that resonated most with me was
She is stupid because she has never had to be smart. She has never had to do anything but be blonde and entitled.
Hair colour notwithstanding she has never had to be anything but entitled, bold and willing to use any means to get ahead. The fact that I live in a world where this would be emboldened, encouraged and deemed appropriate to serve in a position of power is equal measures of saddening and terrifying.
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u/sucksathangman 2d ago
AND on top of it, she won the case against her! This was an administrative hearing to see if she was qualified to be on the ballot!!!!
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u/illit1 2d ago
i remember the case being really limited in scope for what they could actually present as evidence. everything was basically limited to the 3 days between jan 3rd (when she was sworn in) and jan 6th (you know, the thing) because the complaint was based on:
there was so much other stuff that was inadmissable.
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u/sucksathangman 2d ago
I honestly don't know why she and papa orange have not yet been charged. Or at least instructed "Do not leave the country."
This country is so fucked if we can't charge let alone convict a politician who was clearly involved with J6.
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u/cgn-38 2d ago
Donald trump being free after the nation watched him sponsor an insurrection on Live TV. Constitutes open proof this country is not under the rule of law.
If he never pays for his multitude of crimes. Well you cannot deny some people are just immune to prosecution. The implications we are a democracy in name only become undeniable.
That changes a lot of long held beliefs and loyalties in a multitude of people. I do not think the GOP or our government entire grasp that.
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u/Better-Director-5383 2d ago
I'd say the legal system is fundamentally broken but it's working exactly as intended.
If you have enough money you can just lie and say you don't rember doing those crimes you're on tape doing and that is more then sufficient to never face any consequences.
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u/Ash_an_bun 2d ago
You can see the quote that will be included in a history textbook down the line if these fuckers don't kill us all.
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u/frugal_masturbater 2d ago
That's why books get banned. I mean, we staring right down that barrel.
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u/nickels-n-dimes 2d ago
it's dissappointing. I watched it live. The prosecutor seemed to know from the beginning it was not going to go anywhere and throughout the case just sounded like they weren't trying. A lot of her doing that squinty smug smile.
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u/bartspeople 2d ago
Here you go fam: https://www.c-span.org/video/?519623-101/hearing-challenge-rep-marjorie-taylor-greenes-candidacy. If you just want to see some additional flavor or context either before or after this clip, skip to around 2:01:21.
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u/oneplusmadz 2d ago
No you don't! trust me.
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u/wbm0843 2d ago
I donât trust you, I donât even know you. You could be three MTGs in a trench coat for all I know.
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u/Renediffie 2d ago
No you don't. I watched a few minutes and it was unbearable to watch. It was just one long string of "I don't recall saying that"
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u/ahungrylilsandwhich 2d ago
Not fit for office
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u/acog 2d ago edited 2d ago
Not like my man George Santos. Name a qualification, ANY qualification, heâs got it.
You want educated? He has a PhD from every single Ivy League school. You want a veteran? He was with George Washington at Valley Forge.
We donât deserve George, but thankfully he has lowered himself to serve.
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u/Kerbonaut2019 2d ago
Of all the things that George has done in his career, you forget to mention that he was the first man to walk on the Moon. Shame on you for disrespecting His Holiness Pope George.
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u/ScienticianAF 2d ago edited 2d ago
This country is way past that. People don't vote for who is qualified. The only thing that matters is the color of the party.
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Itâs sad that people actually voted to put her in government.
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u/TheDustOfMen 2d ago •
And then actually re-elected her after all the shit she pulled.
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u/Qubed 2d ago
At some point we are going to have to come to terms with the fact that there are a significant number of people in the country that want to literally destroy the functioning federal government and probably build out a religious autocracy on its ashes.
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u/capaldithenewblack 2d ago
Using guns to ensure it happens. And weâre the ones who are ruining democracy?
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u/CookiedowXD 2d ago
I honestly can't tell you how many times I've been harassed by these people. And everybody just looks the other way.
They always talk about how great the 1950's were. But if they went back there, they would treat everyone there like garbage too. Because they're "boring."
The only thing they live for is tribalism.
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u/alien236 2d ago
The 1950s were shit for anyone who wasn't white, male, and straight, but whatever.
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u/TonkaTuf 2d ago
Guess who most of the people that believe this shit areâŚ
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u/GrandTusam 2d ago
So far i've seen a huge number of closeted self hating gays on those groups.
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u/oiwefoiwhef 2d ago
Right, because to them, everybody has the urges that they have towards the same sex.
They donât realize that theyâre experiencing those feelings because theyâre homosexual (and thatâs totally ok!).
But theyâve âsuccessfully suppressedâ those feelings and have not acted upon those emotions.
They assume that âactual homosexualsâ just donât have the same level of will power that they have to suppress those urges. Theyâve fought those urges their entire life and look down upon the people who âcanât fight the urges that everyone experiencesâ towards the same sex.
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u/kaci3po 2d ago
Sometimes I think about a scene from the movie "but I'm a cheerleader" where the main character first realizes she's a lesbian. At first she outright denies it as a possibility -- "everyone just thinks I am." Then she's asked if she thinks about girls and she says "sure, but everyone does. Everyone thinks about girls all the time!" It's not until one of the other characters counters "but you only ASSUME that they're thinking of them the same way as you. They're not" that she realizes. Because in the world she grew up in, straight was considered such the default that when she thought of girls like that, she could logically only conclude that this must just be how every other girl thinks, and everyone must just be walking around all the time, suppressing and ignoring their desires. She didn't even realize she was gay until her parents shipped her off to straight camp.
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u/EarsLookWeird 2d ago
My grandfather said that line at Christmas and I asked what he expected the top earners would pay in the 50s tax brackets.
He was not prepared for 91%
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u/_thundercracker_ 2d ago
Those same neo-conservatives that are always talking about "the good old days" are also the same neo-conservatives that spent almost all of the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and most of the 90s trying to manipulate their way to dramatically lowering taxes for the rich. Estate tax? Almost noone is opposed to it. Call it the death-tax and almost everyone wants to abolish it.
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u/JosephSwollen 2d ago
I want to use guns to ensure this doesn't happen
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u/throwaway31096 2d ago
I think it's more like there's a significant number of people in the country that simply are in denial or don't care about all the lies and hypocrisy so long as their team is seen as winning or the libs are seen to be getting owned. Which in turn allows the actual people who want to actually do damage and make changes for the worst to continue destroying the government.
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u/ReactionClear4923 2d ago
Any country that does not prioritize the education of its citizens cannot truly be called a first world country. Over the last few decades, the US government and Oligarchs (and Canada is getting there as well) have made it so much harder and more expensive to get a post-secondary education, to the point some people literally can't. With this, I feel like we're seeing the effects of an undereducated population and just how easy it is to take advantage of and use them, which I firmly believe was/is the goal. It's much harder to control a population that has been taught critical thinking.
America is slowly becoming a third world country for the majority of citizens, with a seperate first world life for the rich
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u/dismayhurta 2d ago
Republicans have intentionally gutted education because only dumbfucks vote Republican when not rich.
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u/Tofunugg 2d ago
And all we do is cry how great America is and we canât send our fucking kids to school without worry they wonât return .. active shooter drills aplenty.
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u/lisserpisser 2d ago
My Kindergartener is having her first drill next week. It truly breaks my heart.
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u/Tofunugg 2d ago
I grew up in the Midwest and we had to do tornado drills - those scared me. My high school had metal detectors and that was considered extreme.. in 2001.
I have a 7 year old who has been homeschooled thus far, but she voiced that sheâd like to go to school this next year and who am I to deny that? It scares the fuck out of me.
Sending love to your family.
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u/HippyGramma 2d ago
Theocracy is the ultimate goal. We're not fighting it hard enough.
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u/garry4321 2d ago
Dont say "religious" like there is any ambiguity what religion it is, or that there will be any acceptance of others. They want a White Christian Fascist Nation
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u/kalasea2001 2d ago
Or more likely we'll be like almost every other country this happens to where the paradox of tolerance will handicap the left and only after we're all living in the Handmaid's Tale will those too complacent to have done anything say "how did this happen?"
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u/AnEgoJabroni 2d ago
My girlfriend and I got into the show they made off of HMT, and we never finished it. It was too foreboding, to be honest, it hit too close to reality. At first, I thought "oh, thats cool, another suspenseful dystopian thriller", but then we started pondering how things could reach that point, and some harsh realities are there. Look at Iran pre-'79.
Then I looked at the cultural climate at the time, and realized the position that we may be in someday. It was a dose of reality that I hadn't really considered up to that point, and it was pretty bleak. Fantastic story, more people need to at least encounter it. Although, I guess some people may watch it and fantasize about how much they want that type of world, which is the other edge to the sword. Where some of us see horror in those stories, others may see a "proper world", which is fucked but true.
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u/Politics_Marvel 2d ago
Yeah I couldn't watch it for the same reason. Started getting a little too reminiscent of the current political climate and narratives being pushed/ actions taken by people on the right.
Jan 6 would've been their real world takeover day if it had gone how they wanted, like when the Gilead people bombed the White House and staged a mass shooting in Congress in the story. The Trump supporting terrorists were looking to take elected officials hostage and then execute them by hanging them, specifically Mike Pence.
In the show/book, the Gilead people spun the attack they committed as islamic extremist terrorism, in the real world the Trump people tried to say it was actually antifa dressed as Trump people who were attacking the capitol, or that it was just a quiet peaceful protest, a sightseeing tour.
In the book, the Gilead crowd successfully infiltrates the US government to such a degree that after the attack happens, the majority of the remaining officials in the US are part of their cult, so they start instituting mandatory prayer and other overtly religious rules/laws almost immediately.
In the real world, we have the GOP who recently all voted in unison to prevent a government probe assessing how deeply white supremacist attitudes have infiltrated our military and police, and who now regularly equate support for LGBTQ rights with pedophilia, and then handwave away constant mass shootings committed against minorities, women and the LGBTQ community by radicalized men who share their prejudiced attitudes.
This is after all, still a heavily white majority country. Income inequality is getting worse and worse every year, and the discontent and anger the white majority feels about their declining standards of living is being used as a weapon by the likes of Fox News and right wing media + politicians.
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u/Point_Forward 2d ago
The paradox of tolerance is right wing propaganda. They want to convince you that being tolerant is a passive activity, something you allow others to have.
What we are interested in doing is creating tolerant spaces, which is an active activity, to oppose those being intolerant of others. To not tolerate intolerance, hate the sin not the sinner.
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u/JoeWaubeeka 2d ago
Come to terms? The GOP has stated explicitly that this is their goal. To quote Ronald Reagan "Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." The stated goal of the Republican party is to eliminate government.
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u/superanth 2d ago
Some people will vote for anyone as long as theyâre not a Democrat.
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u/ZachtheKingsfan 2d ago
Absolutely this. I have family that would vote in Hitler if he came back to life as a Republican, and I live in arguably the most liberal state (California). Canât imagine the mindset of voters in MTGâs district.
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u/bynwho 2d ago
I live in her district. Their mindset is that dems are so evil that they want to dismantle the âGreat US of Aâ, so anyone with an R next to their name gets the vote. I highly doubt sheâd get as many votes if she wasnât a Republican.
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u/AllTheTakenNames 2d ago
Itâs because they have been fed disinformation that reinforces and builds upon stereotypes by the GQP, churches, Fox News, etc.
They actually believe that Dems abuse kids, hate America, hate white people, want to turn everybody gay, etc.
Most of my life I have been someone who wants to engage with ppl on the other side to show them we have things in common, we can compromise, etc etc
What can you do with this?
You canât reason or compromise with this
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u/Spanktronics 2d ago
Yeah & theyâre turning each one of their fears into a self fulfilling prophecy. At least itâs all building to an explosive conclusion, so it wonât go on forever.
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u/scott__p 2d ago
That district would vote for a rotting turnip if it has an R in front of it's name
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u/EdgarAllanKenpo 2d ago
I thought a rotting turnip is what we are watching in this video. The fuck? Am I being punked?
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u/junkman21 2d ago edited 2d ago
Itâs sad that people actually voted to put her in government.
I mean... In one post, from January 2019, Greene liked a comment that said âa bullet to the head would be quickerâ to remove House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. And it's literally in her FB history.
WTF Georgia? Get your act together.
Wait. NY voted to put SANTOS in congress?
My bad.
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u/BluetheNerd 2d ago
A large portion of her voters would consider that statement a positive when it comes to voting for her...
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u/keksmuzh 2d ago
Tbf many New Yorkers would be quite happy to jettison Long Island into the Atlantic, never to be heard from again.
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u/PLS_PM_ME_SOME_BOOBS 2d ago
Long Islander here, I could go for a swim right about now.
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u/Angry_poutine 2d ago
And put her on a security committee
I guess they want to make it fair for the rioters by giving them an insider next time?
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u/Kriegerian 2d ago
Have you ever been to Georgia? Sheâs the perfect representation of stupid racist white shitkickers from that state. Sheâs popular with those people because sheâs exactly like them.
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u/One_Breath_6984 2d ago
It just goes to show you the intelligence and the compatincy of the average voter. I fully believe there should be some sort of short test given before you can vote, just to verify that you are not a moron.
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u/mlrny32 2d ago
I actually think hers was the only name on the R ticket.. I'm wondering why nobody in that state tries to go against her.. Surely there's at least 1 other Republican in her state who would like her seat..
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u/deadmamajamma 2d ago
She's a district representative, only people who live in the 14th district can run for her seat. A Democrat tried to unseat her and the threats and harassment he received ended up causing a nervous breakdown. He got divorced and moved back in with his parents out of state.
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u/Ocksu2 2d ago
I live in Georgia and have a lot of family in her district. A Democrat stands no chance of winning that district and, frankly, there are no competent republicans there that would be any different than her.
She moved there specifically to run for office because she knew that the people there were mostly uneducated rural whites and that saying asinine stuff would get her an easy win. The voters there think she is great and is doing a great job "owning the libs".
She isn't going anywhere any time soon unless she gets arrested for something. She has carte blanche to do/say anything within the confines of the law with practically no threat of getting voted out of office.
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u/SeaImportance7538 2d ago
Rome and Dalton are sad âcitiesâ in North Georgia. Her district is largely populated by the kind of white people that scare white people. Sheâs not even from there, she moved because she knew it was an easy seat to win.
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u/Frogman1480 2d ago
"No I haven't said that."
shows proof
"Oh no, wait...."
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u/PullinUpBootstraps 2d ago
She truly is one of the dumbest people to have ever held public office. Having nobody would be a better representation of her constituents than she is.
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u/Buck_Thorn 2d ago
How can a question asking if she said something be "just speculation", anyway?
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u/PullinUpBootstraps 2d ago
She heard it on Law and Order and decided to just go with it.
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u/kenatogo 2d ago
Not a lawyer, but I thought "speculation " had a specific courtroom definition
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u/Mullin20 2d ago
speculation means the same in a legal sense as it does in the everyday normal usage sense. Objecting to a question on the grounds of "speculation" simply means that the objector believes the question improperly calls for answers and conclusions based primarily on assumptions and not entirely on the facts that are properly in evidence. It has no relation to the context of this video clip where the questioner is simply asking the witness whether she ever made a particular statement. It is obvious that MTG simply moronically blurted out a cliche television-drama "legal" sounding word in response. As the witness, it is not even proper for her to make this objection, even if it was somehow applicable to the question.
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u/OrdertheThrow 2d ago
No, someone that incredibly fucking stupid and detached from reality is a perfect match to constituents who are equally deficient and detached to have voted for her. She is a perfect little summary package of everything wrong with half of this country. Unintelligent, uneducated, rabidly attached to political ideology that has done nothing but screw them over, but utterly set in their course to tear this country down.
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u/gregsting 2d ago
Didn't even have to show proof, just the word triggered her memory somehow
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u/UncoolSlicedBread 2d ago
Nah, she was just trying to stop from perjuring herself. She knew she said it at one point, itâs in the GOPs tactic to just deny. When evidence was presented she just needed to morph what she meant to keep from perjuring herself.
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u/Don_Gato1 2d ago
Honestly she spews so much inane bullshit daily in an uninterrupted train of thought that it would not surprise me if she truly forgot saying it.
It was at the moment he said âcan you please put up exhibitâŚâ that her internal monologue realized âoh shit they have proof of me saying that, better backtrack.â
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u/UncoolSlicedBread 2d ago
Youâre likely more correct that I am. âOh thatâs right, I did do that. Hmmmâ
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u/theClumsy1 2d ago
She didnt do her defense correct.
It's "i dont recall saying that"
And when shown evidence
"I dont recall saying that but i trust your judgment"
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u/jasperfilofax 2d ago
It would have been hilarious if 'exhibit 5' was completely unrelated and the lawyer knew she would shit herself as they know she'd fall over her own lies.
"Is there anything else you would like to tell to us today before we pull up exhibits 6,7,8,9,10...?"
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u/mittenknittin 2d ago
âSee, hereâs why what I said bears no resemblance to what I actually believe and you shouldnât hold it against me but also I may decide in the future that I really mean it so my base will still vote for me.â
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u/lillweez99 2d ago
Objection!
To what the truth?
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u/Cocheeeze 2d ago
âObjection!â
âOn what grounds?â
âShe actually did say that but we donât want to admit it.â
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u/jcforbes 2d ago
I hate that the video cut before we got to hear about the proof though, and the objection.
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This woman is the single dumbest person in the world. I am so embarrassed to be from Georgia. Fuck her
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u/madscot63 2d ago
You forgot "evil"
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u/rangusmcdangus69 2d ago
They also forgot stupid, idiotic, numb nuts, nincompoop, homophobic, shitass, ugly, dumb, dummy, dipstick, dunce, dingbat, dunghole, dingleberry, dumbass, the list goes on
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u/NoTwatwaffles 2d ago
The work twatwaffle covers all that and takes it a step further. That woman is a twatwaffle.
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u/Lazersnake_ 2d ago
She sounds like a child caught in a lie... "well.. I believe that... uhh... by not upholding... the... uhh... (come up with excuse)... .....she violated her oath of office... by not securing the border."
She's an idiot and an embarassment.
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u/underwear11 2d ago
She isn't the dumbest, but she is evil. Her brunette counterpart is the dumbest
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u/Ngoscope 2d ago
There needs to be a new word for people like her. All the words we have now like dumb, evil, and corrupt just don't do justice to how terrible they have, are, and will continue to be.
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u/pipboy_warrior 2d ago
Come on now, she's not the single dumbest person ever. Yes, she is incredibly stupid and we have evidence of that. But keep in mind that there were a sufficient number of people to vote this dumbshit into office. Surely those people are at least as dumb if not more so.
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u/uisqebaugh 2d ago
Has anyone ever noticed that whenever horse lady is about to tell a big lie, she always closes her eyes and holds them closed while shaking her head?
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u/MrBully74 2d ago
Thatâs her tiny processor rebooting
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u/tmmzc85 2d ago
My partners Trump loving grandmother does literally the same shit when talking political shit - if she's backed into a rhetorical corner she literally closes her eyes and recites talking points, shit is creepy AF to watch.
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u/leif777 2d ago
Has anyone ever noticed that whenever horse lady is about to tell a big lie,
she always closes her eyes and holds them closed while shaking her head she'sbreathing?FTFY
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u/Zealousideal_Amount8 2d ago
I love how she looks so smug at her attorney or whatever and then backpeddles like the coward she is.
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u/HRHFlossie 2d ago
Can I ask, what is the lady in the foreground holding to her face?
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Ooh just did some digging. It's a stenomask. A sort of padded microphone so the user can dictate what is being said without background interference so it can eventually be typed up/ speech recognition software.
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u/Hydroc777 2d ago
She's actually repeating everything that everyone in the proceeding is saying. Yes, she's using speech recognition software to make an initial transcript in real time, and that will be edited later by a scopist to produce the final transcript.
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u/carbonflow45 2d ago
Why don't they just use a microphone to get a recording of the actual speakers?
Edit: I guess with similar voices it could be hard to tell who's speaking.
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u/skytomorrownow 2d ago
Some really great reasons from the article:
Some of the most compelling reasons from the article were:
Being able to ask them to read back what was said just moments earlier. Something still sort of a pain with pure audio.
Being able to discriminate voices. Imagine a raucous Senate hearing in chambers with overlapping speakers. A recording could be very hard to untangle. Or even something like 'below-knee pain' vs 'baloney pain'.
They are more than a recorder, they are sort of like a professional witness.
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u/travelbug_bitkitt 2d ago
Thank you for asking! I scrolled alllll the way down looking for someone to comment on it. It looked like some space man oxygen mask. lol
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u/The2ndDegree 2d ago
You don't even need the sound on for this, you can see the exact moment her soul flees her body
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u/Richizzle439 2d ago
You can see her whole body start to stir when she is actively lying in court âI havenât said that.â
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u/KarlaSect13 2d ago
She's like the Karen at the restaurant trying to have something comped that she already ate.
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u/elalesound2 2d ago
"i object, your honor...the councillor cannot show...evidence...cuz...it will make my client look...bad..."
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u/xRoyalewithCheese 2d ago
YOUR HONOR I OBJECT
And why is that?
Because itâs devastating to my case!
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u/SmokeSmokeCough 2d ago
Add this to the list of things that had no consequences
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u/remmij 2d ago
This hearing was such a joke. I watched it live and had to turn it off halfway through because the Georgia judge was so unbelievably biased towards her it was unreal.
The judge spent the entire time sneering/smirking at the prosecution, threw out nearly every argument against her (no matter how relevant), upheld nearly every objection by the defense (no matter how flimsy), bantered on the stand with MTG, allowed two outbursts by her cheering entourage without throwing them out of the courtroom, and allowed MTG to straight up lie on the stand by claiming "I don't recall" to every question she didn't want to answer (despite clear evidence that she did recall and made those statements multiple times).
She and that judge have no business serving... The Founding Fathers would weep.
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u/WhatRUHourly 2d ago
It is the entitlement here that actually disgusts me the most. She is a witness. She is being asked questions by an attorney. Her role in this situation is to answer questions from that attorney and, if possible, to explain her answers. If there is a question from that attorney that is against the rules of civil procedure then it is the role of her attorney to then object and to clearly state the rule and reason for the objection. The judge will then determine whether the question is or is not against those rules and either direct her, the witness, to answer or to ignore the question and for the attorney to move on.
It is not her role to decide that she will not answer a question because, by her own determination, it violates a rule of civil procedure (which, by the way, it did not call for speculation as she alleged). That she thinks she is just entitled to ignore questions just because she doesn't like them really grinds my gears. I really wish the judge had stopped her right there and told her that she is not the judge and that she does not get to interpret the rules of civil procedure in his/her court and that she will answer the question unless directed not to by the judge.
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u/psych0nokoi 2d ago
Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?
F NO!
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u/gusterfell 2d ago
If she was under oath, that was perjury. She stated she never said something, despite knowing she did. It is clear she knew she did, because she rushed to change her statement before the tape was played.
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u/Zestyclose_Seesaw204 2d ago
You can clearly state by her facial expressions and face lines that she is not inteligent person. Not to mention her speeches.
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u/AdPsychological7926 2d ago
As an amateur Phrenologist, I can tell she has the forehead width of a stable goat, the nose of an unchaste Moravian, and the mouth of a Turkish Taffy puller.
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u/Whayne_Kerr 2d ago
Anyone who has ever seen the TV show âMister Edâ knows what she looks like.
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u/pineapple_witchboi 2d ago
Hey now, Iâve met some Turkish taffy pullers and they all have much nicer mouths than her
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u/holden_mcg 2d ago
Agreed. So you can imagine the intelligence level of those who put her in office. Not trying to be mean, but there are a lot of people who are just not smart.
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u/oneplusmadz 2d ago
There is a level of unknown danger to these kind of ungodly dumb and yet some cunning people who are in the senate. Her face somehow is transparent to her true dark self and you can see in the moment she is caught in a lie, she goes on to justifying the lie and why she said it in the first place.
I can't stand this biblical error for more than few seconds.
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u/memecut 2d ago
At first she's trying to conceal a smile, maybe even hold back laughter. She thinks it's just as funny now as she did when she said it. She's doing a very bad job at trying to hide it, no better than a child. Maybe even a hint of dupers delight.
She collects herself, then deflects and denies.. even when it's so apparent she's caught in a lie. I can't believe we let people like this have any power at all over us.
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u/daintybarley 2d ago
The older my cousins wife gets the more she resembles MTG and she would HATE that comparison, so letâs keep this between us. Ok?
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u/ThatsRobToYou 2d ago
"exhibit 5, please."
"Ohhhhhhhhh wait!"
When this all collapses there will be an obvious record of all these stupid shits that fucked it up. The future of humanity will be laughing in history classes.
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u/TNShadetree 2d ago
Her views and statements don't bother me near as much as her ever present smirk.
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u/anotherthrowout21 2d ago
I love how she was so proud of her non answer.. until the other guy was like "yea, no".
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u/CopiumAddiction 2d ago
This is literally perjury. Any regular person could serve up to 5 years for this.
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u/godfetish 2d ago
"Hold on..." and then makes other accusations that are untrue... Biden's border guys have arrested more people trying to enter the USA illegally than ANY previous president. Obama's was higher than Trumps and caused a lot of outrage in the immigrant communities, remember the kids in cages? The border topic is just a dog whistle for racists anymore, and a complete nothing-burger in reality.
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u/Masta-Blasta 2d ago
I love when laymen try to use legal terms on the stand. "Speculation." Lmao dumbass.
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u/Jumpy_Community9965 2d ago
âUh no wait⌠(Iâm bout to go to jail for perjury) .. yes , yes I didâ
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