r/pcmasterrace 2d ago Starstruck 1 Calculating 1

Building a PC is so easy Meme/Macro

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u/FlashWayneArrow02 3070 | 5 3600 | 16gb@3600MHz 2d ago

I have massive respect for any case manufacturers who simplified the front IO by turning it into a single connector instead of 5 tiny plugs. My H510 has the single one, and it was so easy to build in.

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u/cholz 2d ago

Is the pinout on the mobo standard?

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u/Noxious89123 5900X | 1080Ti | 32GB B-Die | CH8 Dark Hero 2d ago edited 2d ago

As far as I am aware, no!

And that's why we have this problem. No idea how a case could come with an "all in one" connector.

Turns out there actually is an "Intel standard F_PANEL connector", which is commonly seen on boards made after 2017.

TIL.

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u/Kuritsu243 Ryzen 9 3900X, RTX 2080S, 32GB 3600Mhz, X570 phantom gaming x 2d ago

Modern motherboards that aren't OEM tend to follow the standardized F_PANEL header pinout. The H510 for example also includes a breakout connector for the all in one connector so that it can still be connected to mobos with a non standardized header.

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u/Ojitheunseen Core i7-3770K|GTX 970 SLI|16GB RAM|Acer X272U 1440p/144 Hz 2d ago

2017 is still embarassingly late for that.

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u/BigBlueDane 2d ago

Why don’t they all do this? I have to assume there’s a reason

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u/chef_PEPPERONI 2d ago Gold

Unplugging 24 pin felt like I was going to break motherboard.

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u/Mypopsecrets 2d ago

To me the USB C cable is the ultimate challenge, it always feels like I'm ripping the socket out of the board

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u/giorivpad Ryzen 3900X | MSI 3080 | 64GB RAM 2d ago

I have damaged a few!!!

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u/Bagafeet Desktop 2d ago

Just bent some mobo pins installing a USB C adapter

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u/Crafty87 2d ago

I destroyed the usb3 header on my z690 the first time I tried to plug it in. Wtf man. I am scared of this particular step since then.

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u/Key-Lifeguard-2952 2d ago Take My Energy

Yall learn how to be nimble and delicate with your technologies, you hear me?

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u/Tullius_ 2d ago

You gotta be nimble and delicate while also applying 500 lbs of force to get it to clip in

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u/RandomRedditReader 2d ago

The trick is alignment.

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u/Mixedpopreferences 2d ago

“It's all in the hips. It's all in the hips. It's all in the hips.”

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u/Incredulous_Toad 2d ago

Crickeeeeeettt!!!

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u/ohTHOSEballs 2d ago

Ease it on someone else.

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u/Alert-Day2110 2d ago

what you're saying is it has to do with the angle of the dangle?

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u/Green-Spread 2d ago

Sometimes the tolerances between the port and header are just too tight. On my last case swap I had to sand down the internal usb3 head for it to plug in comfortably.

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u/WoodDragonIT 2d ago

Right? First time I installed RAM back in 1990, I put in the 2 MB sticks being very careful and... nothing. After bringing the RAM back twice I finally brought the whole thing to CompUSA to show their tech. The guy leans in like he's doing CPR and what do you know? It worked.

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u/Bagafeet Desktop 2d ago

Who needs front panel USB anyway? I won't plug anything there for a minimalist clean aesthetic 🙃

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u/saturn_since_day1 7950x - 4090 - 64Gb DDR5 - UHD38 displa 2d ago

I don't after trying to reroute it lol. Snap

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u/waterGammaFoxtrot 2d ago

thumb drives and card readers.

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u/huffmandidswartin 2d ago

I hate the term 'thumb' drive. Not as much as I hate 'dongle' though.

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u/thealmightyzfactor i9-10900X | EVGA 3080 FTW3 | 2 x EGVA 1070 FTW | 64 GB RAM 2d ago

Thumb dongle

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u/baddie_PRO 2d ago

thumb my dongle daddy 😩

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u/Distrah 2d ago

Thungle

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u/grantrules Ryzen 2600/ 32gb ram/24tb and a 5600x/6650xt/32gb 2d ago

My spurs go dingle dangle dongle

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u/moustachedelait 2d ago

On the other hand, I love "cartridge"

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u/ClankyBat246 2d ago

Classic.

Feels good to say.

Like how they used to advertise 7-up in the 80s.

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u/ZorbaTHut 2d ago

I totally bent some pins on my current computer trying to do that. Ended up using a set of jeweler's screwdrivers to attempt to bend them back.

Works fine now. I'm frankly surprised.

I am never unplugging that cable again.

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u/-SandorClegane- 10850K | EVGA 3090 FTW | 64GB 3200 CL14 | ASUS MH XII 2d ago

Don't feel bad, you were doing God's work.

I bought a mobo on ebay for 90% off MSRP just because those pins were bent (I didn't even fix, just threw a USB exp card in one of the open PCIe slots.)

Minor mistakes like that can turn into big savings for others on the used market. Paying it forward or something?

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u/thepenis_mightier 2d ago

just threw a USB exp card in one of the open PCIe slots.

I've done that. Bent the pins of the USB3.0 header on my now-ex-wife's motherboard when I was building it many years ago. Ended up ordering a USB3 PCIE card and forgot about the bent pins entirely. Still worked great through our divorce last year.

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u/-SandorClegane- 10850K | EVGA 3090 FTW | 64GB 3200 CL14 | ASUS MH XII 2d ago

Damn...should have tried to claim just the USB card in the divorce just because. I'm a petty person though, that's probably not what a normal, well-adjusted person should do.

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u/thepenis_mightier 2d ago

Eh, I have enough hardware to my name as it is. It was a 4790k build; pretty high-end at the time, but definitely showing signs of aging as of 2021.

No longer my problem. 🧼🤲

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u/madscientistEE hardwareguy_0001 2d ago

It seems like half the time, the connector shell comes with the cable. This is especially true on USB3 cards with cheaper connectors.

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u/Rak_S11 2d ago

Are you talking about the USB 3.2 type E header on the motherboard?

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u/-GabaGhoul 2d ago

USB 3.2 type E header

No he's talking about the original USB 3.0 Front panel header with all the pins.

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u/Djinneral 2d ago

that one is a grippy mfker

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u/-GabaGhoul 2d ago

I've pulled the plastic bottom off whilst leaving the pins on the board. Getting it replugged was awful.

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u/unnecessary_kindness 2d ago

Yup that must be it. Had to unplug one just this morning and it did not feel like it was a healthy decision for all involved.

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u/phaser125 2d ago

When assembling it feels like you can’t get it to seat / snap in like you assume it should and you’re never quite sure you got it fully on there then if you ever have to remove it it feels like it’s unsafe to do so and you’re gonna break something taking it off .

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u/SoCuteShibe 8700k~32GB 2666~1080Ti 2d ago

Yeah. Especially if you are pressing down and "searching for the click" by rocking back and forth a little bit.

Hmm no click... rocks... hmmm still no click... rocks ...hmm... maybe if I really... metallic tearing sound... oh.

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u/93708717106342551921 2d ago

It will come off too, so you're right to be paranoid. I've done it. Usually the pins stay though.

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u/R0ugeRed 2d ago

Me and all my homies hate the USB-C header on the mobo

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u/MasterMagneticMirror 2d ago

it always feels like I'm ripping the socket out of the board

Guess what actually happened while I was building my pc

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u/Tmoore188 2d ago

I literally had to rip mine out of a motherboard I was replacing. Who fucking designed that pinout?

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u/Rassettaja 2d ago

I've never had any issues with any other cables but the usb 3 sockets, literally ripped the plastic off with the cable before it came off once.

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u/SuperCool_Saiyan Eye 5 13600Kay | Em Ehhs Eye Are Ekks 6600 2d ago

The wiggle trick is the way to go just go up and down with the connector and it comes out alot easier than straight out

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u/Snorlax_lax 2d ago

everytime

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u/IntellectualBurger 2d ago

Nah. Plugging it IN feels like ur gonna break someone’s ribcage

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u/Anshin brrrr 2d ago

Is it in yet?

push

Is it in yet?

push

Is it in yet?

snap

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u/IntellectualBurger 2d ago

*breaks through the floor into downstairs neighbors living room

It’s in!

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u/Setari i5 8th gen@4.5ghz/32gbRAM/GTX2070Super 2d ago

Me, internally: "Ugh finally, okay how do I plug in these tiny plugs into this particular mobo now"

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u/WorldClassShart 2d ago

I've had an adapter that came with an old case that I plug everything into, and just plug it in. It's about 20 years old, and has been in about 5 different motherboards. It's my slut plug.

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u/Rooonaldooo99 RTX 3080, i9-10900K, ASUS ProART Z490, G.Skill 32 GB DDR4-3600 2d ago

"Hey Ron"

"Hey Billy"

....

"That hurt"

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u/Captobvious75 Ryzen 5600 | Reference 7900XT | 65” LG C1 OLED 2d ago

“Did I break it?”

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u/Teknoeh PC Master Race 2d ago

“was that a good snap like it’s in place or a bad snap like I broke something?”

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u/Sabata11792 2d ago

Getting me to doubt my ability to plug stuff in every time.

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u/Trapped_Mechanic 2d ago

I also get unduly paranoid when I lock the CPU in place and quadruple check its alignment and STILL feel terrified pushing that bar down.

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u/Sabata11792 2d ago

Only a few hundred dollars held in place by a extra thick paperclip.

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u/Tzemiee 2d ago

When I was younger I by accident during cleaning pulled all of them, almost everything worked, reset and start button was switched and reset button light always was turn on, and there was never any light on start button, good times lmao

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u/whitemagicseal Desktop 2d ago

I shed a tear everytime

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u/almothafar PC Master Race 2d ago

30 minutes to build a PC and 3 hours for cable management, especially if you choose Corsair fans and AIO....

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u/Muffin_Maan 2d ago

I wish my patience for cable management was greater

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u/CSPDTECH 2d ago edited 2d ago

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u/OutragedTux Ryzen 5600X, Sapphire 6700XT and...other stuff. Penguin stuff! 2d ago

Ehh...no one really has the time to really straighten out those cables, do they? I mean, loads of sata drives, many fans from different brands, stuff like that?

Make it as tidy as makes sense, and don't ever think about it. EVER!

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u/CosmicCyrolator 2d ago

I cable managed once. Everything was clean and crisp and straight and all the right length. Then I changed my graphics card and needed a new power supply to power it and had to tear it all out. Never again

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u/CSPDTECH 2d ago

same that's why i don't do it lol

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u/mysticfed0ra 2d ago

Having a transcendental eldritch being for a desktop sounds like the way cooler option anyways :)

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u/PriorEnvironmental65 2d ago

Mine looks like a lovecraftian horror thats been crapped on by a rainbow shitting unicorn. It just lives under the desk with the side off so I can swap drives and dust it out, while giving a weird 'don't touch me' vibe in lights and AIO ramping noises.

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u/Upbeat-Opinion8519 2d ago

I did 5 years at a PC shop in my youth. I dont think I ever routed the cables on my own PC. Nor used side panels. I tested w/ and w/o sidepanels many times. No side panel was always cooler, just more dust. So I kept an air compressor nearby lol.

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u/Nochange36 2d ago

This is why you don't cheap on a case or psu, you can usually upgrade everything else with a minimal amount of cable management

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u/Mostly_Aquitted 2d ago

Cable management is where you just manage to close the back side of the PC to successfully contain the eldritch horror of a cable nest - as long as the main cavity of the case is nice and tidy? right? guys?

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u/jmon25 2d ago

My god it's guts are just hanging out!

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u/CSPDTECH 2d ago

I know I feel so bad for it just keeping it disemboweled but eventually I do it justice lol

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u/Tim_Buckrue i9-69k//STD 1080ti//3tb WAM//Sumsong 869 Evo Plus Extreme OC 8tb 2d ago

I bet having all those GPUs makes browsing Reddit real smooth

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u/toddgwynn 2d ago

Why even have a case?

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u/apuckeredanus 1055T 7970 8GB DDR3 2d ago

Lmao completely built my pc and couldn't figure out the damn header panel.

Took it to Fry's electronics and they got it all connected properly and did my cable management for me.

They ended up closing a week later so perfect timing lol

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u/kelddel 2d ago

RIP Fry's electronics

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u/Large_Dr_Pepper 2d ago

Why on earth would you get a small case when you're planning on using all that

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u/EugeneFenster 2d ago

Is that a PC or a crypto miner?

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u/Riftus 2d ago

I find it as a challenge, it's fun. Like you have an inventory of zip ties and velcro ties, see how clean you can make it

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u/heat13ny 2d ago

I usually start off with it looking extra clean with the zip ties but as I upgrade and move shit around I refuse to rezip anything. Just tuck that new bitch somewhere and call it a day. Results in the front looking gorgeous and the back looking like random stray hairs. Got a case with velcro strap tie-downs and....still refuse to redo any cable ties once it's done.

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u/Snatchbuckler 2d ago

Just slap the back cover on and you’re good. No one is going to look back there. Not even yourself!

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u/LifeOnMarsden 3700x / RTX 3080 / 32GB 3600mhz 2d ago

Going RGB-less in my newest build has made cable management so much less hassle

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u/almothafar PC Master Race 2d ago edited 2d ago

Lian-Li fans system seems to be convenient, there are other manufactures doing some good stuff to make it less hassle but Corsair seems to love cables lol.

For me, if I do next but it is most likely to go with Lian Li fans, unless I see Corsair do something, then it is the matter of which one is better comparing thing.

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u/RaynSideways i5-11600K | EVGA GTX 1070 | 32Gb 2d ago edited 2d ago

I really dig the Lian-Li linkable fans. Went from an MSI AIO to a Lian-Li one and it cut my cables by like 2/3rds.

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u/take-money 2d ago

Just built in a Meshify 2 and cable management was quick and easy!

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u/SingularityPrime 2d ago

I have a Corsair 5000d and cable management is cake when everything potentially tricky is hidden behind a giant shield

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u/Sota77 2d ago

I have learned this the hard way going from an RGB build to basically zero RGB where there is almost no cable management. I had Corsair RGB fans and AIO in my old case and it was a nightmare. Now I have a Noctua air cooler, and just plain Phanteks black fans that daisy chain cleanly and there are total of three fan cables that I had to plug in. It almost didn't feel right, because I remember fucking around with the Corsair shit for what felt like half a day, and it took less than 5 minutes with my new set-up.

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u/CaveMacEoin 2d ago

Same. Then I put the glass side facing a wall and turn off all the RGB.

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u/IsMyAccount 2d ago

If you haven’t had to set your IRQ settting on your sound card to get your mouse to work , you don’t know how hard building a computer can be

….Shakes fist in old man

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u/scriptmonkey420 Fedora 2d ago

Remember when CPUs were NOT keyed? Fun times blowing up CPUs because it was in 90° from the proper orientation.... still have the CPU too. Bent burnt pins and all.

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u/IsMyAccount 2d ago

Burning plastic … mmmmm

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u/scriptmonkey420 Fedora 2d ago

Was a common smell in the basement when I was in Voc School

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u/edit-grammar Antec 900 with stuff inside 2d ago

I killed my first IDE channel because I didn't know I was supposed to line up the red stripe on the cable with the tiny mark near pin 1

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u/MegabyteMessiah 2d ago

Choose your hard drive geometry wisely in the CMOS

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u/LordGalen i9-9900K | GTX 2070 Super | 32GB 2d ago

Only to realize after it won't boot that you forgot to set the jumper correctly.

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u/YouMustveDroppedThis 2d ago

i remember conflicts among different pc parts and manufacturers were a real concern.

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u/IsMyAccount 2d ago

Oh you are using IRQ 9, better not use 2!

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u/w3sp 2d ago

Almost as bad as games requiring like 500kb expanded memory and you had to go to config.sys etc to disable certain things to gain a few kb 😎

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u/Dash_Rendar425 2d ago

THIS.

It's so easy nowadays, compared to the shit we had to deal with just to install our new soundblaster 16!

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u/NickMullenTruther 2d ago

you can literally go to a website that picks all the parts you need that are compatible then click one button and assemble in an hour lol

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u/spaceman-lurking 2d ago

And then setting IRQ, DMA, and others in the OS.

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u/Rynyann 2d ago

I have very jaded old person feeling everytime I hear one of todays whippersnappers complain about building a PC being hard

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u/chasenmcleod Desktop | 3080 | 5800x | 32gb 3600 2d ago

Building the PC was the easy part. After that you had to install OS, Drivers, Drivers to install Drivers, and countless product keys before finally getting to edit one photo and play one game.

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u/matt82swe 2d ago

Relatable. My knowledge of PC internals stops at around 2000 when I built my last computer.

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u/DK_Notice 486DX 25Mhz, 4MB, 120MB HDD, 2400baud 2d ago edited 2d ago

It’s much easier. No more jumpers. Fewer annoying molex connectors. Much thinner and more manageable cables, and fewer cables in general. The only annoying thing that still persists are the front panel connectors (power switch, reset switch, etc) but there are fewer of those now (no more speaker generally), and some motherboards come with a nifty thing that allows you to plug them all in in good lighting and then plug the whole thing in at once.

Many devices are now onboard (and don’t suck anymore either), so less cards to install. Possibly, none, unless you install a GPU for gaming. Sound, network, etc are all onboard.

Oh and also your typical PC case is much safer now. They’re no longer made out of razor blades and have nice smooth edges.

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u/Inevitable-March1485 2d ago

dont forget the cpu cooler mountin urgh

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u/stefan714 2d ago

The ones with the little metal bracket that needs to be clipped down are the devil's work. My fingers can barely reach and I'm always afraid of breaking something.

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u/lawnicus18 Ascending Peasant 2d ago edited 2d ago

I just built my computer using a Hyper 212 and when I was pushing the black fan holders over the sides of the rad I thought I was gonna bend the shit outta the fins, nerve wracking as hell

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u/dathar 2d ago

Aren't you supposed to snap the Hyper 212 fan directly onto the heatsink where it is supposed to end up at instead of sliding it down the groove? It just clips on

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u/TheTigerbite 2d ago

I built one computer. 10 years ago when I was 24. I only remember 2 parts I bought for the initial build and that was the i7 2600k CPU and the Hyper 212 Cooling Fan. FUCK THAT THING.

I mean, the computer still runs great today, but because of that one part, I refused to ever build another computer.

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u/Dat_Boi_Aint_Right 2d ago

Then you slip and punch a block of spikey metal.

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u/JoBro_Summer-of-99 Ryzen 5 5600 / RX 6600 XT / 16GB DDR4 2d ago

I was installing a new GPU yesterday and whilst I was screwing in the support bracket I slipped and stabbed myself with thescrewdriver, awful stuff

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u/heisenberg15 2d ago

I just did that last week trying to plug in my new PSU, still nursing those cuts lol

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u/mossgoblin 2d ago

This. This is the one I hate.

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u/Dorkamundo 2d ago

Just don't go OEM for your cooler, most quality coolers are easy to install/remove.

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u/fork_yuu 2d ago

Man I was told those AMD Ryzen coolers are the shit too

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u/Survived_Coronavirus 2d ago

Wraith cooler fans? They work great unless you're doing extreme overclocking.

People who complain about OEM coolers (or whatever) are not treating their equipment well.

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u/rodaphilia 2d ago

The complaint above was about ease installation, not reliability. Nothing to do with people not treating their equipment well.

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u/cashinyourface are tea ex 3070 frownders eviction | in the tell 13700 kay eff | 2d ago

It's honestly fine if you have a good cooler. The big noctua cooler (I forget the exact model number) has a great mounting system

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u/Inevitable-March1485 2d ago

yes it really depends on the cooler, my current one is a cheapo from bequiet which has just the push pins so convenient

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u/gezafisch 13900K | 4090 | 32gb 6400 2d ago

NH-D15. Even then, it required a lot more pressure to get the screws to engage than I was comfortable with as a first time PC builder.

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u/Robots_Never_Die i7 4790k / XFX R9 390 / 27" 1440p 2d ago

Tip for this is to only get two or three threads of engagement on each screw before tightening them down. If you tighten one screw down first the others are harder to start.

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u/Jacksaur 7700X | RTX 3080 | 32GB | 9.5 TB 2d ago

Be Quiet! has an awesome design too.
I had to swap my motherboard three times last week, and their cooler was the easiest I've ever installed.

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u/InsightfulLemon i5 13600k | 2x8Gb | 3080 2d ago

I was rather unimpressed by the Dark Rock Pro coolers' mounting system I just left it attached when I sold my CPU & Mobo

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u/one-joule 2d ago

The middle fan mounting is such a nightmare.

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u/fellationelsen 2d ago

10x easier than the AMD stock cooler.

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u/Forgotpasswordagainl 2d ago

IT iS jUsT aDuLt LeGo

Cept if you fuck up you are out hundreds or thousands of dollars.

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u/StrictlyFT Ryzen 5 5600x/3070Ti 2d ago

Tbf good Legos are fairly expensive too, it's just harder to brick them.

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u/xanax101010 2d ago

Specially watercoolers, you even have to change the backplate

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u/FattyPepperonicci69 i5-12600K; RTX 3070; 32gb Corsair @ 3600 2d ago

I built my first PC, and I chose an AIO. Was something else alright. Got it together in the end.

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u/EntDuke 2d ago

Christ the default ryzen ones with the backplate on the mobo are a nightmare to get right when you have to mount it properly after just pasting the cpu. I was surprised by how much easier an aftermarket one was, that I prefer to get one of them always now, instead of having to bother with the standard ones ever again if it means not having to deal with the backplate.

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u/jack_avram 2d ago

yeah I remember the old school ones requiring a flat head screwdriver to press the latch into place on the mounting tabs - one slip and you stab the mobo

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u/Noa15Lv Ryzen 7 3700x // RTX 2080S ROG // 32GB DDR4 2d ago

The pc case wires ain't that bad anymore, if your motherboard comes with its manual.

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u/BoomBePiesek PC Master Race 2d ago

Even if it dont u can find one online

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u/SaintPoost 2d ago

Sometimes they'll come with a little bracket so you can prep them in the bracket and plug them all in at once which is neat. Should be the standard, imo

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u/gym_brah81 2d ago

My mind was blown when I saw someone using that in a youtube video.

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u/TheApolloZ 2d ago

Gigabyte calls it G connector.

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u/chef_PEPPERONI 2d ago

Front panel layout is standardised, case manufacturers should make only one cable.

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u/AstacSK Ryzen 7 3700x | 32GB | RX6700XT 12GB 2d ago

And make them all the same length, night new case for brother in Christmas, why was there like 15cm difference between shortest and longest? They are always connected to the same place, had to do more unnecessary cable management because of that

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u/SovietBear666 R7 3700X EVGA 3080 32GB Meshify 2 XL/Alphacool 420mm AIO 2d ago

The picture isn't always clear to me which way the connectors should be facing. Them just being tiny in general makes it tough to get them all into their homes.

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u/ivemademisteaks 2d ago

Any connector that is directional will have some sort of key or tab (like the 24 pin mobo power). The single headers for the front panel don't have a direction, they can face anywhere. The headers that are 2 or 3 in a flat line will have a positive (+) and a negative (-), which the diagram in the manual will show how to connect.

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u/luminer03 Ryzen 7 5800H | RTX 3070 | 16GB 3200 Mhz 2d ago

Say hello to the H510, that has the case headers in one connector but also comes with an adapter to split them in case your Mainboard has the pins in a non-standard layout

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u/tatleoat 2d ago

Lol even then it's still better than what I remember 20 years ago

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u/Great_White_Samurai 2d ago

Honestly having built pcs for over 20 years I've wondered why they haven't come up with some better cables at this point.

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u/OutragedTux Ryzen 5600X, Sapphire 6700XT and...other stuff. Penguin stuff! 2d ago

Hey, at least we've moved beyond IDE and molex connectors. That's something, right?

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u/brendan87na Ryzen 9 5900x - RTX2070 2d ago

IDE nightmares...

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u/brendan87na Ryzen 9 5900x - RTX2070 2d ago

don't forget about IRQs

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u/FinalArt53 2d ago

For some reason molex cables would become fused together to the point of needing dual plumbers pliers to separate them.

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u/Accomplished_Soil426 2d ago

Having to use jumpers to set your hard drive to master or slave

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u/darkjungle 2d ago

Standards are standards. Change the connector you then need to start making adaptors for the 24 pin and hope that everyone follows suit so you have a new standard connector in 10 years.

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u/Noxious89123 5900X | 1080Ti | 32GB B-Die | CH8 Dark Hero 2d ago

It's the age old problem of "lets standardise it!" resulting in just another standard existing, that still no one agrees upon.

With that said, there's not a huge number of major players in the space.

Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, ASRock, EVGA, Intel, SuperMicro, Biostar... I think that's all the big ones?

If they could agree on a standard pinout, then everyone else would reasonable want to follow.

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u/Dat_Boi_Aint_Right 2d ago

Change a cable and suddenly your product works with nothing else.

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u/almothafar PC Master Race 2d ago

Well, there is ATX 3.0 (12VHPWR cables) to be used for motherboards and GPUs, so maybe a few years coming will see this thing become more common used.

The challenge is to have these lower voltages onboard instead of inside PSU, that will result with smaller more efficient and cheaper PSUs and more expensive motherboards.

I think you can google that thing, and it seems it is actually the future.

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u/uselessadmin 2d ago

My first build was a 486/66 and I can't believe how much has not changed in the process. Aside from I had received the announcement of a 'computer fair' via fax and went to purchase from vendors in person.

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u/G_man252 Desktop i7 8700k EVGA 2070 Super 8GB 16gb DDR4 RAM 2d ago

The first time I built a PC I had to call gigabyte to get help connecting all of the little power cables, and the lady I got barely spoke english.

' You connec to PIN by da muthaboard, G_Man, I tell you two time'

In the end she got me up and running though!

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u/theDreamingStar 2d ago

You just revealed that your real life name is G_man

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u/NarutoDragon732 2d ago

I thought his name was G_man252. Have we been lied to this entire time???

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u/Incred 5800X / RTX 3070 / 32GB DDR4 2d ago

Yes.

GET HIM.

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u/theDreamingStar 2d ago

Oh nvm, I forgot about the other 251 G_men

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u/G_man252 Desktop i7 8700k EVGA 2070 Super 8GB 16gb DDR4 RAM 2d ago

Riz an shin pls Mr. Freeman, no slepin on tha job

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u/warrantyvoiderer 2d ago

If you ever get fed up with the CS folks, your mobo manual has a diagram.

Now, whether they use the same lettering on the connectors as is written in the manual is another question... I love the mobo companies that use the adapter and/or color coding.

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u/Kryptonline Ryzen 5 3600 | RTX 2070 Super | 2x 8 GB @ 3200 Mhz 2d ago

A Vortigaunt on Tech Support?

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u/RequiemWasTaken PC Master Race 2d ago

Needs the usb header on the right also cause fuck that connector

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u/HyperGamers R7 3700X / B450 Tomahawk / GT 730 2GB / 16GB RAM 2d ago

Specifically the blue USB 3.0 one, the little USB 2.0 boi is chill

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u/Feenox 2d ago

Not to say "back in my day" because it makes me seem old and feeble, but back in my day there were those shitty white plastic molex connectors for IDE HDs and CD-Rom drives. Even with a higher end power supply those fucking molex connecters were the cheapest garbage quality the could possibly be. So easily bent, so easily jammed. Someone bring me the head of Johnny Molex!!

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u/SocketByte i7-12700KF | GTX 1080 | 32GB 3600 CL18 2d ago

Unplugging a 24 pin is literal nightmare fuel

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u/CSPDTECH 2d ago

that's weird I never have an issue with the 24 pin but the stupid little front panel wires kill me, I always guess, and get it wrong, then have to google the board schematic and get out the magnifying glass lol

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u/SocketByte i7-12700KF | GTX 1080 | 32GB 3600 CL18 2d ago

Well I once plugged my front panel IO into a very similar looking USB header just beside the IO pins. Never felt more stupid in my entire life.

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u/OutragedTux Ryzen 5600X, Sapphire 6700XT and...other stuff. Penguin stuff! 2d ago

that's weird I never have an issue with the 24 pin

I can tell you many stories about dodgy generic PSUs (all we had back in the day) that often had a vice-like grip on the atx power connector on the mobos. To say nothing of bruised fingers from cheap molex power connectors, also from back in the day. They had a really tight grip.

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u/Armadillodillodillo 2d ago

Generic? Back in a day? 3 Years ago my Asrock mobo and bequiet psu has formed a death grip. Took a lot of force to get the connector in. I try not to think about the day when I'll have to separate them.

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u/GreatDevourerOfTacos 2d ago

Building a PC is VERY easy... until there is a problem.

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u/DethronedPrince 2d ago

Man my first build I thought I put everything together fine but couldn’t get it to turn on for the life of me. Ended up sending it to a pc repair shop who fixed it for like $70 but didn’t tell me the issue (I probably forgot to ask). Looked at it when I went home and realized I plugged my all the power switch pins upside down. Felt like an idiot.

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u/Fit-Ad8324 2d ago

Once you do it like 2-3x it's literitly like riding a bike.

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u/titaniumjordi 2d ago

Plugging in the front panel connectors felt like performing heart surgery inside a full warehouse during an earthquake

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u/NollerReal R7 5800x | RTX 3070Ti | 32GB 2d ago

I haven't built a computer for a couple years until 2 weeks ago. New cases are starting to have a single front IO connector which is nice I guess. but no getting around the 24pin.

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u/killersquirel11 3700x | 3070fe | NCase M1 2d ago

but no getting around the 24pin.

If only ATX12VO would take off

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u/Mentohs GTX 970 | I5-6600k @4.4GHZ | 16gb 3000MHz 2d ago

I recently dug thru my old Gigabyte Z170x-gaming 3's box and i actually found a cool connector where its clearly labeled where to put each front panel wire which then sockets into the motherboard. nifty little thing and it made me realize all these years that i never had my drive activity light connected properly.

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u/InTheMorgue 2d ago

Ahhh yes the fun mixed with frustration.

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u/_haha_oh_wow_ gen9 i7, 1060Ti, 16 GeeBees +Switch|PS4|3DS|SteamDeck 2d ago

Just read the mobo manual?

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u/What_is_a_reddot Ryzen 7 3700X|GTX 1070|16 GB 3200 MHz|too many fans 2d ago

NO READ

ONLY BUILD

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u/TheWillRogers TheWillRogers 2d ago

reading the manual doesn't give me fingers the size of toothpicks and the dexterity of a watch maker to actually get the damn things on though.

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u/_haha_oh_wow_ gen9 i7, 1060Ti, 16 GeeBees +Switch|PS4|3DS|SteamDeck 2d ago

Convert the manual into tweezers.

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u/fuck__you-- 2d ago

do you realize what sub you are posting on right now?

this is the place where the dumbest of the dumb come to shitpost.

just look at me for proof.

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u/_haha_oh_wow_ gen9 i7, 1060Ti, 16 GeeBees +Switch|PS4|3DS|SteamDeck 2d ago edited 2d ago

IDK, you're using complete sentences and punctuation: Are you sure you're the dumbest of the dumb?

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u/Spokker 2d ago

me fail build? that's unpossible

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u/Dag-nabbitt R7 3700X | 6900XT | 64GB 2d ago

Depending on the case and mobo, plugging in the little front headers correctly can still be really difficult. The detachable hubs are always welcome for me.

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u/CorValidum 2d ago

PSU manufacturers and their cabling F*eries!!! Like why the F we don’t have standard (we actually do! They just chose not to use it) that will force them all to use same cable order! But nooo you need cables from Be Quiet for their PSU since otherwise you will fry your components….

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u/Feeling_Cold_1925 2d ago

This is why your mobo comes with a manual

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u/nickless09 2d ago

I think most redditors here do not read manuals, much easier to come here and make a post about every small thing.

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u/SelfishxMessiah 2d ago

The highs and lows of my first pc build have never been matched to this day over a decade later